<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?><oembed><version><![CDATA[1.0]]></version><provider_name><![CDATA[Azimuth]]></provider_name><provider_url><![CDATA[https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com]]></provider_url><author_name><![CDATA[John Baez]]></author_name><author_url><![CDATA[https://johncarlosbaez.wordpress.com/author/johncarlosbaez/]]></author_url><title><![CDATA[A Bet Concerning&nbsp;Neutrinos]]></title><type><![CDATA[link]]></type><html><![CDATA[<p>Over on Google+ I wrote:</p>
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I&#8217;m willing to take bets that this <a href="http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2011/09/neutrinos-travel-faster-than-lig.html?ref=hp">faster-than-light neutrino business</a> will turn out to be wrong. We can negotiate the detailed terms, the odds, and the stakes.</p>
<p>But beware: I&#8217;m still enjoying the case of scotch I won from David Ring. I bet there&#8217;d be no &#8220;strong evidence for supersymmetry&#8221; within the first year of operation of the Large Hadron Collider.
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<p>It took a couple of days, but I finally got someone willing to take me up on this.  And&#8212;surprise!&#8212;it was none other than <a href="http://www.azimuthproject.org/azimuth/show/Frederik+De+Roo">Frederick De Roo</a>, one of the key contributors to the Azimuth Project.</p>
<p>But he&#8217;s playing for higher stakes than I&#8217;d expected:</p>
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Hi John,</p>
<p>actually I&#8217;m willing to take a bet.</p>
<p>I propose to bet (even though I don&#8217;t believe it) that</p>
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  neutrinos can go faster than light
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<p>The loser of the bet will promise to the winner not to fly for one whole year! (for a year chosen within a specified number of years after the bet has expired)</p>
<p>How about that? The earth wins regardless who&#8217;s right <span class='wp-smiley wp-emoji wp-emoji-wink' title=';-)'>;-)</span>
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<p>I asked him if we could discuss the details here, and he said okay.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tricky business. While I&#8217;ve got the odds on my side, I&#8217;ve also got more to lose!  </p>
<p>Frederik lives in Europe, where there are lots of trains.  His idea of a fun vacation is a month-long bike trip.  What&#8217;s he got to lose?</p>
<p>I could easily survive a year of not flying to conferences.  It would hurt a bit.  Still, I&#8217;d say yes in a minute if it were just up to me.  But Lisa and I have permanent positions at the University of California in Riverside, and we&#8217;re trying to work out a deal where we work in Singapore every summer.  So, I can&#8217;t really agree to this bet unless I get her okay!  </p>
<p>How do I convince a non-physicist&#8212;and not just any non-physicist, but my <i>wife</i>&#8212;that it&#8217;s really, <i>really</i> safe to bet a summer of being together on the possibility that neutrinos go faster than light?  </p>
<p>We spent seven years on opposite sides of the country before she got a job at UC Riverside.  We promised we&#8217;d never do something like that again.  And now I&#8217;m saying &#8220;oh, don&#8217;t worry, dear: special relativity is very well tested.&#8221;  If you haven&#8217;t been in this situation, you don&#8217;t know how unconvincing that sounds.</p>
<p>Should I look into cruises from Southern California to Singapore?  How long do those take, anyway?  It would be a bummer to get there only have to head straight back.</p>
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<p>What would you say, Frederik, if I changed the the terms of the bet to something like this?  If I lose the bet, for each plane trip I take during the specified year, I&#8217;ll donate $10,000 to your favorite environmental organization.  Carbon offsets, or whatever you like.  That way if I lose, I suffer, but not my marriage.</p>
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