<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?><oembed><version><![CDATA[1.0]]></version><provider_name><![CDATA[The Dish]]></provider_name><provider_url><![CDATA[http://dish.andrewsullivan.com]]></provider_url><author_name><![CDATA[Andrew Sullivan]]></author_name><author_url><![CDATA[https://dish.andrewsullivan.com/author/sullydish/]]></author_url><title><![CDATA[ZYGOTES]]></title><type><![CDATA[link]]></type><html><![CDATA[<p>Andrew <a href="index.php.dish_inc-archives.2006_01_01_dish_archive.html#113642009653024100">writes</a>: <span style="color:#7c7ca6;font-weight:bold;"></p>
<blockquote><p>If you believe that human beings exist from the moment a zygote comes into being, there are almost no environments more dangerous for humans than inside their own mother.</p></blockquote>
<p></span>Well, sure &#8211; but if you believe that human beings exist from the moment a zygote comes into being, you could just as easily argue that the <i>safest</i> environment for a human being, at that stage of its development, is inside its own mother. Yes, it&#8217;s still a pretty dangerous place &#8211; but so was the environment <i>outside</i> the mother&#8217;s womb, until the last hundred years or so. A kid born in Chicago in 1870, for instance, had a fifty percent chance of reaching the age of five. But that didn&#8217;t make him any less of a human being.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not quite true that, as Andrew <a href="index.php.dish_inc-archives.2006_01_01_dish_archive.html#113647476592997759">puts it,</a><span style="color:#7c7ca6;font-weight:bold;"> &#8220;comparing the scale of what humans do to the unborn with what nature does is like comparing a high tide with a tsunami.</span>&#8221; It&#8217;s more like comparing a middling tsunami to a major one. There are about 4 million births a year in the United States, and if we suppose that only a third of zygotes make it through to birth, that means that about eight million human lives perish naturally <i>in utero</i>. This is obviously a lot more than the between 1 and 1.5 million abortions that have taken place every year since the mid-1970s &#8211; but not <i>so</i> much more that the latter statistic fades into insignificance.</p>
<p>And even if it did, so what? &#8220;Nature&#8221; kills everyone, eventually. The death rate for people in the stage of development we call the eighth decade of life is probably around eighty percent or so. That doesn&#8217;t make it less of a crime if someone bumps my grandmother off. We don&#8217;t have laws against murder because we want to lower the death rate to zero &#8211; we have laws against murder because we accept that 1) everyone dies, but 2) it&#8217;s not okay to kill them.</p>
<p>Obviously, nature&#8217;s waste is a strong <i>intuitive</i> argument against the pro-life position &#8211; i.e., if zygotes and embryos perish in such great numbers, how can they be that important? If we don&#8217;t know these lives exist, and don&#8217;t grieve when they&#8217;re accidentally snuffed out, why isn&#8217;t okay to kill them? But I don&#8217;t think it makes for a very strong <i>logical</i> argument. The crux of the abortion debate is whether there ought to be a legal distinction between human lives (which zygotes and embryos and fetuses obviously are) and human <i>persons</i> &#8211; defined variously by brain activity, ability to feel pain, level of self-awareness, possession of language, ability to survive independent of their mother&#8217;s body, or what-have-you. And intuitions aside, I don&#8217;t think even the most ardent pro-choicer wants to start defining &#8220;personhood&#8221; based on survival rates. You won&#8217;t like where it takes you.</p>
<p><i>&#8211; posted by Ross</i></p>
<p>UPDATE: I simply want to echo every single point of Ross&#8217;. There&#8217;s a distinction between wilfull taking of human life and nature&#8217;s toll, beyond human control. The argument about zygotes does not logically alter the absolutist pro-life case, but it does, I think, provide context for an intuitive sense (echoed by Aquinas) that it&#8217;s too extreme a view. The tsunami-tide metaphor may be excessive. But the ratio of natural abortions to procured ones is still around 8:1. As for &#8220;personhood,&#8221; Ross is right again: that&#8217;s a separate question. I deal with all this in the book. The blog post was designed to nail down a fact. </p>
<p><i> &#8211; posted by Andrew</i>.</p>
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