<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?><oembed><version><![CDATA[1.0]]></version><provider_name><![CDATA[The Dish]]></provider_name><provider_url><![CDATA[http://dish.andrewsullivan.com]]></provider_url><author_name><![CDATA[Andrew Sullivan]]></author_name><author_url><![CDATA[https://dish.andrewsullivan.com/author/sullydish/]]></author_url><title><![CDATA[THE LAST ZYGOTE POST, I&nbsp;SWEAR]]></title><type><![CDATA[link]]></type><html><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;m still puzzled by where <a href="index.php.dish_inc-archives.2006_01_01_dish_archive.html#113651156656889785">this line of argument</a> is supposed to take us. Certainly not to the absurd conclusion that Andrew&#8217;s email correspondent draws, which that if we grant legal protection to zygotes or embryos, we would need &#8220;s<span style="color:#7c7ca6;font-weight:bold;">tart refusing to sell alcohol to breeding-age women,&#8221; or &#8220;refuse to let them ski, ride horseback, or cycle,&#8221; because &#8220;all those activities can cause miscarriages.&#8221; (And if you disagree, you&#8217;re siding with the Taliban &#8211; which I suppose has replaced &#8220;that sounds suspiciously like something <i>Hitler</i> would say&#8221; as the clinching argument of choice.)</p>
<p>Right. And similarly, because we extend legal protection to <i>born </i>children, we don&#8217;t let their parents take them swimming or skiing, and we arrest parents who keep guns in the house, and also alcohol, and of course there&#8217;s secondhand smoke and all the other &#8220;activities that can cause accidental death&#8221; and that are therefore illegal. Except . . . they&#8217;re <i>not</i> illegal, because we make a rather obvious distinction between &#8220;activities that might accidentally harm or kill another human being in your care,&#8221; and &#8220;activities intended to directly cause the death of another human being.&#8221; So I still don&#8217;t see how the fact that zygotes and embryos die accidentally all the time bears on whether killing them is wrong &#8211; beyond the instinctive feeling that if something happens a lot without our thinking about it much, it can&#8217;t be bad.</p>
<p>As for <i>why</i> we don&#8217;t think about it that much &#8211; well, certainly Julian&#8217;s <a href="index.php.dish_inc-archives.2006_01_01_dish_archive.html#113648097266729511">right</a>, in a sense, that we respond differently to earthquake deaths than to accidental zygote deaths because earthquake victims have a lot of qualities that prompt pity and empathy and grief, and zygotes don&#8217;t. The zygote doesn&#8217;t have friends, he doesn&#8217;t have a personality or memories, he doesn&#8217;t have the kind of intimate bonds that are ruptured by the death of an adult human being. So the tragedy isn&#8217;t nearly as great as it would be if I were to die, or Julian, or Andrew. <span style="color:#7c7ca6;font-weight:bold;">And similarly, not all murders are created equal, which is why </span></span><span style="color:#7c7ca6;font-weight:bold;"><span style="color:#7c7ca6;font-weight:bold;">I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any contradiction between saying that abortion is murder and should be illegal, and admitting that </span></span><span style="color:#7c7ca6;font-weight:bold;"><span style="color:#7c7ca6;font-weight:bold;">there are greater extenuating circumstances &#8211; because of the intimacy of pregnancy and the understandable terror associated with becoming pregnant unintentionally &#8211; and less suffering involved for the victim than in almost any other form of murder, and that the penalties for a woman who procures an abortion should therefore be minimal or nonexistent.</p>
<p>Yet acknowledging that all deaths aren&#8217;t the same, and that all murders aren&#8217;t equally wicked, doesn&#8217;t mean that all lives don&#8217;t deserve legal protection. If I shoot a mother of four, it&#8217;s a much greater tragedy than if I shoot a friendless bum, and you&#8217;d probably want to give me a much stiffer prison sentence.</span></span><span style="color:#7c7ca6;font-weight:bold;"><span style="color:#7c7ca6;font-weight:bold;"> But it doesn&#8217;t mean the mom should have the right to life and the bum &#8211; or the fetus, the embryo, or the zygote &#8211; shouldn&#8217;t. </span></span><span style="color:#7c7ca6;font-weight:bold;"><span style="color:#7c7ca6;font-weight:bold;"><br /></span></span><span style="color:#7c7ca6;font-weight:bold;"></span><br /><span style="color:#7c7ca6;font-weight:bold;"><span style="color:#7c7ca6;font-weight:bold;">And of course, the other reason we don&#8217;t respond emotionally to zygote deaths is because we don&#8217;t know they&#8217;re happening. The &#8220;zygote intuition&#8221; argument would make a little bit more sense, in this regard, if people never felt grief over a miscarriage. Then you could argue &#8211; &#8220;look, our moral intuitions tell us not to grieve over human life before that life acquires a personality, or self-awareness, or a face.&#8221; But of course, people <i>do</i> feel grief over miscarriages, by and large &#8211; just as they feel guilt (again, by and large) over abortions. Which suggests, in turn, that we don&#8217;t grieve for zygotes not because we somehow intuit that they aren&#8217;t really people, but because &#8211; unlike embryos and fetuses &#8211; we aren&#8217;t aware of their deaths. You can&#8217;t grieve for something you don&#8217;t know exists.</p>
<p>And you can&#8217;t kill it, either. I know that the argument-from-zygotes is intended to show the alleged extremism of the pro-life position, not make an empirical claim about the nature of abortion in the U.S. &#8211; but even so, it&#8217;s worth pointing out that no abortion clinic is in the zygote-killing business. They&#8217;re in the embryo and fetus-killing business, because by the time anyone knows they&#8217;re pregnant, the zygote is all grown up. So if for some reason we decided to move to an entirely intuition-based abortion regime, our zygote intuitions wouldn&#8217;t really matter much anyway &#8211; only our embryo and fetus intuitions would.</p>
<p></span><i>&#8211; posted by Ross</i><br /></span></p>
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