<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?><oembed><version><![CDATA[1.0]]></version><provider_name><![CDATA[The Dish]]></provider_name><provider_url><![CDATA[http://dish.andrewsullivan.com]]></provider_url><author_name><![CDATA[Andrew Sullivan]]></author_name><author_url><![CDATA[https://dish.andrewsullivan.com/author/sullydish/]]></author_url><title><![CDATA[Norman vs Norman]]></title><type><![CDATA[link]]></type><html><![CDATA[Mailer <a href="http://www.theparisreview.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/5775">explains</a> his long beef with Podhoretz - and, somewhat hilariously, takes responsibility for Podhoretz's journey to the far right fringe :</p><blockquote><p>Interviewer:&nbsp; But let us talk about neoconservatism.&nbsp; It has become such a thing in America.&nbsp; I’m interested in your relationship with people like Norman Podhoretz, people who went on a journey that took them very far from the place where they started.]]></html></oembed>