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<p>A reader writes: </p>
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<p>I&#8217;m seriously skeptical of <a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/11/victory-in-ir-1.html">your reader&#8217;s optimism</a> about Iraq &#8211; despite his claimed military insider knowledge &#8211; for several reasons:</p>
<p>(1)&nbsp; There are those Washington Post articles quoting <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/11/AR2007111101730.html?hpid=topnews">high-ranking US military officials</a> as saying they&#8217;re <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/21/AR2007102101577.html">still scared</a> of the Shiite insurgencies and that the Maliki government is still <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/14/AR2007111402524.html?hpid=topnews">stubbornly refusing</a> to make any conciliatory moves, which don&#8217;t mesh well with his statement that the Sunnis and Shiites are starting to pal around together:</p>
<p>(2)&nbsp; There are <a href="http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/09/a_tale_of_two_mapes.php">Gen. Jones&#8217; maps</a> showing that the segregation of Sunnis and Shiites in Baghdad has continued to massively increase. </p>
<p>(3)&nbsp; Last but definitely not least, we have Mark Lynch&#8217;s <a href="http://abuaardvark.typepad.com/abuaardvark/2007/11/biddles-best-ca.html">description today</a> of Stephen Biddle&#8217;s latest optimistic scenario for Iraq&#8217;s future (via <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2007_11/012531.php">Kevin Drum</a>).</p>
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<p>I think Biddle is probably right on, and it&#8217;s important to understand what this means for the debate on the war. Marc Lynch describes the best possible outcome thus:</p>
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<p>If everything goes right and if the US continues to &quot;hit the lottery&quot; with the spread of local ceasefires and none of a dozen different spoilers happens, then a patchwork of local ceasefires between heavily armed, mistrustful communities could possibly hold if and only if the US keeps 80,000-100,000 troops in Iraq for the next twenty to thirty years.&nbsp; And that&#8217;s the best case scenario of one of the current strategy&#8217;s smartest supporters.</p>
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<p>I think that is indeed the only scenario that currently keeps the &quot;country&quot; from exploding, which is why I do not see how this has turned into anything other than an up-front imperial project. The trouble is: no one is honestly presenting this as a choice to the American people, explaining the costs, the opportunity costs and the dangers. </p>
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