<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?><oembed><version><![CDATA[1.0]]></version><provider_name><![CDATA[The Dish]]></provider_name><provider_url><![CDATA[http://dish.andrewsullivan.com]]></provider_url><author_name><![CDATA[Andrew Sullivan]]></author_name><author_url><![CDATA[https://dish.andrewsullivan.com/author/sullydish/]]></author_url><title><![CDATA[Why Torture Doesn&#8217;t &#8220;Work&#8221;]]></title><type><![CDATA[link]]></type><html><![CDATA[
<p>This point in <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/opinion/24zelikow.html?_r=1&amp;ref=global">Philip Zelikow&#39;s</a> op-ed yesterday in the NYT is essential:</p>
<div class="blockquote" style="margin-left: 40px;">What the committee may well find, after all the sifting, is that the reports were a critical part of the intelligence flow, but rarely — if ever — affected a “ticking bomb” situation. Yet the main rationale for using extreme methods is to save time. To the extent that the methods are more than just a way of debasing an enemy, their added value is in breaking people quickly, with the downsides including unreliability.</p>
<p>That is one reason the methods of torment do not stack up well against proved alternatives that rely on patience and skill.</p>
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<div>As is Daphne Aviatar&#39;s <a href="http://washingtonindependent.com/40361/torture-works-is-not-a-defense">rejoinder</a>:</p>
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<div class="blockquote" style="margin-left: 40px;">After you’ve tortured and humiliated someone, how can you possibly know what he would have told you if you’d gained his confidence instead?</div>
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