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<p><span style="font-size: 8pt;"><em>by Zack Beauchamp</em></span></p>
<p>Ed Kilgore <a href="http://www.tnr.com/article/the-permanent-campaign/94372/kilgore-bachmann-perry-christian-extremism" target="_self">cuts</a> to the chase:</p>
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<p>Major presidential candidates like Perry and Bachmann really are  something new under the sun. They embody a newly ascendant strain of  conservatism that is indeed radical or extremist in its claims to  represent not just good economics or good governance, but eternal  verities that popular majorities can help implement but can never  overturn. They deserve all the scrutiny they have attracted, and more.&#0160;&#0160;</p>
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<p>Benen <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_08/douthat_perry_bachmann_and_the031865.php?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+washingtonmonthly%2Frss+%28Political+Animal+at+Washington+Monthly%29" target="_self">agrees</a>. Michelle Goldberg <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/31/texas-abortion-ruling-won-t-stop-rick-perry.html" target="_self">zooms in</a> on abortion. What&#39;s so troubling about the phenomenon Kilgore highlights is its fundamental hostility to liberal rights. In liberal democracies, we believe that it&#39;s wrong to use the government to force people to live according to your religious rules. You can certainly advocate for positions informed by your religious beliefs, but you damn well better be able to give citizens who don&#39;t share your beliefs a compelling secular defense. Otherwise, you&#39;re violating their core right to live according to their own religious values. Theocons who cry &quot;but <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/276046/im-dominionist-i-had-no-idea-david-french" target="_self">doesn&#39;t</a> this <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/276013/are-christians-controversial-michael-walsh" target="_self">ban</a> all Christian social conservatives from public life&quot; entirely miss the point. Of course you can advocate for laws that accord with your religious values in public life, provided you can explain why for reasons other than the eminently unsatisfying &quot;my God says so.&quot;</p>
<p>The core problem with Bachmann/Perry types is that they jettison even the veneer of respecting this idea. Every issue &#8211; <em>even economic issues</em> &#8211; are decided by appeal to theological principle. It&#39;s the establishment of religion in everything but name.</p>
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