<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?><oembed><version><![CDATA[1.0]]></version><provider_name><![CDATA[The Dish]]></provider_name><provider_url><![CDATA[http://dish.andrewsullivan.com]]></provider_url><author_name><![CDATA[Andrew Sullivan]]></author_name><author_url><![CDATA[https://dish.andrewsullivan.com/author/sullydish/]]></author_url><title><![CDATA[Pot, Booze, Cars And Guns: Frum&#8217;s&nbsp;Response]]></title><type><![CDATA[link]]></type><html><![CDATA[<img alt="116486193" class="asset  asset-image at-xid-6a00d83451c45669e2017c35813bf8970b" src="http://andrewsullivan.readymadeweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/6a00d83451c45669e2017c35813bf8970b-550wi.jpg" style="width: 515px;" title="116486193" /></p> <p>David Frum&#0160;<a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12/27/the-public-health-case-against-pot.html" target="_self">tackles</a>&#0160;Mark Kleiman&#39;s&#0160;<a href="http://www.samefacts.com/2012/12/drug-policy/thirteen-theses-on-cannabis-policy/">13 theses</a>&#0160;on marijuana and <a href="http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/12/frum-on-pot-ctd.html" target="_self">my approach</a> to cannabis. The heart of Frum&#39;s&#0160;argument (with my responses):</p> <blockquote> <p>First, as Kleiman notes, it&#39;s an illusion to imagine that marijuana and alcohol users form two separate and distinct camps. It&#39;s already true that many of those who drink too much also smoke marijuana, and ditto for many heavy marijuana users. I&#39;ll defer to Kleiman&#39;s warning about avoiding under-researched overstatements about these interactions, but they exist and could well become much more severe in a legalized world.</p> </blockquote> This has to be the weakest point I&#39;ve yet heard. Why should we not on these grounds ban many prescription drugs - whose interaction with alcohol is profoundly more dangerous than pot. 20,000 Americans died last year by abusing prescription drugs. No one died of smoking marijuana. It&#39;s a physical impossibility. As Sanjay Gupta <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/14/health/gupta-accidental-overdose/index.html" target="_self">notes</a>, &quot;Distribution of morphine, the main ingredient in popular painkillers, <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6101a3.htm" target="_blank">increased 600% from 1997-2007</a>, according to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.&quot; And yet David focuses on <em>pot</em> as the truly deadly mixture that must be curtailed. It&#39;s the one pain-killer that will never kill you. Bizarre.</p> <blockquote> <p>Second, as former Obama drug-control official Kevin Sabet pointed out in his&#0160;<a href="http://www.nbcnews.com/id/49263362#50046301">bravura appearance</a>&#0160;on&#0160;<em>MSNBC</em>&#39;s &quot;Up with Chris,&quot;&#0160;it&#39;s not as if alcohol law enforcement does not exist. In fact, as he notes, some 2 million arrests occurred last year for alcohol offenses (e.g. public drunkenness, drunk driving, and violation of liquor laws) - not counting actual crimes, such as assault, committed under the influence of alcohol.</p> </blockquote> <p>And your point is ... what exactly? Those against Prohibition favor laws to punish driving while stoned. And I&#39;m happy to lay a bet with David right now that in those states with legal pot, drunk driving arrests will far outpace stoned-driving arrests. But that is the right balance: it&#39;s if your use of an intoxicant presents a threat to others. Right now, alcohol is exponentially more dangerous than pot in this respect. </p> <blockquote> <p>Third, as with guns and cars, the trend lines on marijuana and alcohol are sloping in different directions. Alcohol abuse is becoming&#0160;<em>less&#0160;</em>of a problem for American society in the 2010s, marijuana use, by contrast, is increasing - and increasing particularly among the very youngest users, who should not be using it at all because of the harms to brain development.</p> </blockquote> <p>Again: what&#39;s the point here? The argument for legalization begins with it being a better way to <em>protect</em> kids from easy pot use. David doesn&#39;t address this crucial issue. It&#39;s Prohibition that drives up teen pot-smoking. And yet David wants more of it. He continues:</p>]]></html><thumbnail_url><![CDATA[https://sullydish.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/6a00d83451c45669e2017c35813bf8970b-550wi.jpg?fit=440%2C330]]></thumbnail_url><thumbnail_width><![CDATA[440]]></thumbnail_width><thumbnail_height><![CDATA[247]]></thumbnail_height></oembed>