<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?><oembed><version><![CDATA[1.0]]></version><provider_name><![CDATA[The Dish]]></provider_name><provider_url><![CDATA[http://dish.andrewsullivan.com]]></provider_url><author_name><![CDATA[Andrew Sullivan]]></author_name><author_url><![CDATA[https://dish.andrewsullivan.com/author/sullydish/]]></author_url><title><![CDATA[The May-December Debate,&nbsp;Ctd]]></title><type><![CDATA[link]]></type><html><![CDATA[<p>A reader writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;ve been reading a book about Henry Fonda&#8217;s life, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007TJ1BJ4/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B007TJ1BJ4&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=thdi09-20"><em>The Man Who Saw A Ghost</em></a> by Devin McKinney. Over the course of his five marriages, the women only got younger, though the author seems to think Fonda was ashamed of this somewhat. I can&#8217;t help wondering if this was partly his way of avoiding &#8220;getting older&#8221; &#8211; the race away from death, the thing that gets us all in the end. Some of the women he married were looking for a &#8220;father figure.&#8221; I guess all of these cases are different.</p></blockquote>
<p>Another writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>I think Christopher Ryan got the wrong end of the stick <a href="http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/06/22/the-may-december-debate/">re: Hugo Schwyzer&#8217;s argument</a>. I&#8217;m currently in Thailand and the streets are overflowing with old &#8211; not simply older a la Johnny Depp, but plain <em>old</em> &#8211; white men clutching the hand of some hot young Thai girl. Not women, girls. Just yesterday I saw a man with rheumy eyes, snow white hair, jowls and extremely wrinkled skin walk hand-in-hand with a beautiful young woman who had her student metro card out. But he wore expensive clothes and was coming out of a 5 Star hotel. Maybe she was an escort, or perhaps he has &#8220;friends&#8221; who introduce him to local women. I don&#8217;t know. I just know that this is a very common sight here.</p>
<p>Talking to the most stereotypical of these men is a fascinating experience.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote><p>They are defensive but feel they&#8217;ve gotten away with something; some of them are just happy to be with a woman who would have been completely out of their league in their home country; others use the freedom of living in a foreign country to insist that the women conform to stereotypical gender roles they can&#8217;t enforce back home. For example, one man told me that he &#8220;kicked out&#8221; his girlfriend because she secretly kept a job that ruined his &#8220;standing&#8221; among his fellow expats because it implied he couldn&#8217;t afford to take care of his woman. He replaced her with another woman who was much better because she did his ironing. It sounds like a bad novel, but it&#8217;s life as usual in Thailand. Anything you read about this country doesn&#8217;t compare to the reality smacking you in the face when you get here.</p>
<p>Anyway, the point is this: these women know exactly what they&#8217;re doing. Dating a falang, or white foreigner, is perfectly socially acceptable because it means you can now help improve the financial situation of your family &#8211; perhaps even your whole village if you find a falang who is rich and dumb enough. Everyone here knows at least one Western man who was madly in love with a local woman and a couple of years later found himself broke and alone while her family got rich and she was nowhere to be found.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t turn my nose up at these women who are making use of an outdated stereotype (the servile, exotic woman of color) to their own advantage. And I can&#8217;t really blame the men who seem to actually understand that this is a transaction. A lot of them are married, with children they dearly love, but talking to them you can immediately tell who is a newbie and who has been around for a while. The newbie is the one who thinks he is in control; the oldtimer is the one who sounds vaguely dissatisfied but accepting &#8211; he was searching for something and for a while he thought he had it, but now he can feel its incomplete promise. Yet he feels this is the best life can offer.</p>
<p>This is a fascinating country. It&#8217;s like a social experiment lab.</p></blockquote>
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