<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?><oembed><version><![CDATA[1.0]]></version><provider_name><![CDATA[The Dish]]></provider_name><provider_url><![CDATA[http://dish.andrewsullivan.com]]></provider_url><author_name><![CDATA[Andrew Sullivan]]></author_name><author_url><![CDATA[https://dish.andrewsullivan.com/author/sullydish/]]></author_url><title><![CDATA[Francis And Wagner]]></title><type><![CDATA[link]]></type><html><![CDATA[<p>It was a fascinating detour in the Pope&#8217;s gob-smacking interview yesterday: he is a fan of Wagner, specifically the Furtwängler La Scala <em>Ring</em> and the 1962 Knappertsbusch <em>Parsifal</em>. The peerless music critic for the <em>New Yorker</em>, Alex Ross, <a href="http://www.therestisnoise.com/2013/09/the-wagnerian-pope.html" target="_blank">has some thoughts</a>:</p>
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<blockquote><p>If I&#8217;m not mistaken, Pope Francis is comparing &#8220;decadent Thomist commentaries&#8221; to Klingsor&#8217;s magic garden — a seductive illusion covering a wasteland. Could the Pope&#8217;s emergent philosophy of unadorned compassion have been influenced in some small way by <em>Parsifal</em>, that attempted renovation of religious thought through musical ritual? &#8220;Through pity, knowing&#8221;? &#8220;Redemption to the Redeemer&#8221;? Possibly, but there are limits to his aestheticism: &#8220;Our life is not given to us like an opera libretto, in which all is written down; but it means going, walking, doing, searching, seeing.&#8221; This is a remarkable man.</p></blockquote>
<p>And also a remarkable mind. We were constantly reminded of Benedict&#8217;s intellect, and it was and is impressive. But it was also a desiccated variety, crammed with fear, obsessed with order and precision, closed at times to the surprises of life and of God in its attempt to dot every i and cross every t. Francis? A profound intellect, yet also a living, breathing, open-ended one.</p>
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