<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?><oembed><version><![CDATA[1.0]]></version><provider_name><![CDATA[The Dish]]></provider_name><provider_url><![CDATA[http://dish.andrewsullivan.com]]></provider_url><author_name><![CDATA[Andrew Sullivan]]></author_name><author_url><![CDATA[https://dish.andrewsullivan.com/author/sullydish/]]></author_url><title><![CDATA[Book Club: A Conversation With Alexandra And Maria,&nbsp;Ctd]]></title><type><![CDATA[link]]></type><html><![CDATA[<p>In our next clip, Maria and Alexandra discuss the idea that a writer is a &#8220;professional observer&#8221;:</p>
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<p>Meanwhile, on her blog <a href="http://www.brainpickings.org/">Brain Pickings</a>, Maria <a href="http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/2014/06/27/on-looking-alexandra-horowitz-interview/">quotes</a> Alexandra, a professor at Barnard who specializes in dog cognition:</p>
<blockquote><p>I am, professionally, an observer of animals — by which I mean nonhuman animals. I actually have been less interested in looking at people… But of course, as it turns out, the human animal is also infinitely more complex than I give us credit for. And I appreciated — a lot — the fact that, at the end of this book, I could take a walk with <em>anybody</em> — it didn’t have to be an expert… — and I became more appreciative of anyone’s perspective. If you can <a href="https://sullydish.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/bookclub-beagle-tr.png"><img data-attachment-id="230755" data-permalink="https://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/04/02/announcing-the-dish-book-club/bookclub-beagle-tr/" data-orig-file="https://sullydish.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/bookclub-beagle-tr.png?w=150&#038;h=93" data-orig-size="695,430" data-comments-opened="0" data-image-meta="{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}" data-image-title="bookclub-beagle-tr" data-image-description="" data-medium-file="https://sullydish.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/bookclub-beagle-tr.png?w=150&#038;h=93?w=300" data-large-file="https://sullydish.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/bookclub-beagle-tr.png?w=150&#038;h=93?w=695" class="alignright wp-image-230755" src="https://sullydish.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/bookclub-beagle-tr.png?w=150&#038;h=93" alt="bookclub-beagle-tr" width="150" height="93" srcset="https://sullydish.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/bookclub-beagle-tr.png?w=150&amp;h=93 150w, https://sullydish.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/bookclub-beagle-tr.png?w=300&amp;h=186 300w" sizes="(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px" /></a>just get somebody to talk about what they see when they’re walking down the street, they will almost inevitably be seeing something different than you. Because they are a different person, and there’s a whole <em>background</em> there. And, actually, I think that <em>is</em> a kind of writerly trick — it’s sitting in the restaurant and making up stories about the people who sit around you… being interested in [them] and being able to imagine, backwards, their stories.</p></blockquote>
<p>Follow the whole book club discussion <a href="http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/category/book-club/">here</a>, and email your thoughts and observations to bookclub@andrewsullivan.com. You can listen to the entire conversation from Alexandra and Maria below:<!--tpmore --><br />
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