more years ago than i can remember at will, i was hanging out with my friend sean tucker and he had just gotten two new kittens and i suggested names for them and Darth [the black one] and Catspurr [the friendly cat, and the white one] were born… wait, they had already been born but they were named…

years later, sean and i hung out and drank coffee and chatted about church, something that has a name that conjurs up a whole bunch of different things to a range of different people both inside and outside of it – this is that conversation…

http://www.unlearning.co.za/2011/05/09/chat-2-brett-on-loving-church

or you can go there directly by clicking here or here and this time even here will get you there.