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<p>A few months ago I pointed out something on twitter that is worth expanding on. (Thanks @sarahdoingthing for reminding me!)</p>
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<p>Things that don&#39;t exist: consciousness, persistent identity, the passage of time, an &quot;existence&quot; predicate.</p>
<p>&mdash; Sam Burnstein (@GrumplessGrinch) <a href="https://twitter.com/GrumplessGrinch/status/432220206199349248">February 8, 2014</a></p></blockquote>
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<p>While there&#8217;s plenty to go into on each of these topics, they all kind of hinge on the last one. What does it mean for something to &#8220;exist&#8221;? What does it mean for something to be &#8220;real&#8221;? The answer is nothing. It doesn&#8217;t mean anything.</p>
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<p>As usual, our language is broken. The word &#8220;exist&#8221; can mean many things in different contexts. &#8220;What exists?&#8221; is 10-20 different questions, and some of those are themselves wrong questions. I&#8217;m going to go ahead and answer as many of those questions as I can, taking &#8220;exists&#8221; to mean &#8220;is part of my web of cause and effect&#8221;. Note that this definition is <em>observer-relative;</em> for the purpose of these questions I&#8217;ll be assuming that you are a human being on earth who can read English. (If you are outside this target audience, I recommend running a copy of the author of this article, he can explain it better in person.)</p>
<p>It is my intent here to convince you that this definition is more useful than the blurry haze of connotation and denotation that currently surrounds most use of the word.</p>
<p>Now, to specifics!</p>
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<li><strong>Does anything exist?</strong> The answer is always yes due to anthropic bias. If you can sit around and ask questions, yes, stuff exists. Descartes covered this like 400 years ago.</li>
<li><strong>Does anything else exist?</strong> Look around. Do you have sensory organs? Yup, other stuff exists.</li>
<li><strong>Do things I can&#8217;t see exist?</strong> So, what, things ripple in and out of existence as you turn your head? Actually, that would be consistent with being in a computation-bound simulation, but those things still exist in the simulation&#8217;s memory (object permanence!), so the answer is still yes.</li>
<li><del><strong>Do things travelling away from me at lightspeed exist? </strong>Objects travelling away from you at the speed of light are objects you will never, ever be able to acquire information about or interact with ever again. If you&#8217;ve interacted with them in the past, they exist. Otherwise no.</del> Rev has kindly <a href="http://carcinisation.com/2014/07/31/what-exists/comment-page-1/#comment-73">pointed out</a> that mirrors exist. There is no number 4.</li>
<li><strong>Does God exist? </strong>This is a question that&#8217;s actually like 1000 questions, depending on what you mean by &#8220;god&#8221;. If you&#8217;re talking about an extremely powerful non-physical agent who has the ability to interact with our universe but rarely does so, well, probably not. Supernatural mythological figures? Sorry.</li>
<li><strong>Do other universes exist? </strong>That would depend on whether or not it is possible, in principle for us to interact with those universes. There are some universes that definitely don&#8217;t exist, and some that might depending on future math/physics discoveries.</li>
<li><strong>Does math exist? </strong>No. (This is where we get slightly controversial.) When I think about math, my thoughts are real. When I write an equation on a blackboard, the chalk is real, the symbols are real, your mental interpretation of the symbols is real. But there&#8217;s no abstract math stuff that either of us is interacting with. There are merely symbol manipulations that are or are not consistent, as judged by us.</li>
<li><strong>Does justice exist? </strong>Justice is like math, so no. To the extent that I&#8217;m talking about anything coherent when I use the word &#8220;justice&#8221;, I&#8217;m talking about a particular kind of algorithm for evaluating outcomes. You probably use the word to refer a to a slightly (or very!) different algorithm of the same general class. Justice is a part of my values, but it is not an outside force which acts upon us or upon which we can act.</li>
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<p><a href="https://twitter.com/GrumplessGrinch">@GrumplessGrinch</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/sarahdoingthing">@sarahdoingthing</a> missed one: does &#39;nothing&#39; exist?</p>
<p>&mdash; James (@jamesmcn) <a href="https://twitter.com/jamesmcn/status/495119712028590080">August 1, 2014</a></p></blockquote>
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<p>This is a bad question, and I am a bad person for answering it. &#8220;Nothing&#8221;, the word, exists. &#8220;Nothing exists.&#8221; is a false statement (see answer #1). &#8216;Nothing&#8217;, the concept, exists as a concept (in the minds of people who think about it, not in any kind of hazy extradimensional space).</li>
<li><strong>Does Mickey Mouse exist?</strong> Rev has <a href="http://st-rev.livejournal.com/103259.html">four correct answers</a> for this one.</li>
<li>&#8230;What other types of things might or might not exist? I&#8217;ll expand this list based on your comments. (There are three practice problems hidden at the top of this article.)</li>
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<p>[Last updated 8/2]</p>
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