<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?><oembed><version><![CDATA[1.0]]></version><provider_name><![CDATA[Fineness &amp; Accuracy]]></provider_name><provider_url><![CDATA[https://finenessandaccuracy.wordpress.com]]></provider_url><author_name><![CDATA[Scott Madin]]></author_name><author_url><![CDATA[https://finenessandaccuracy.wordpress.com/author/smadin/]]></author_url><title><![CDATA[Should I Compare Someone I Disagree With to the&nbsp;KKK?]]></title><type><![CDATA[link]]></type><html><![CDATA[<p>So, I was going to stay out of this one. It&#8217;s a complicated mess, and I think on many points both sides are talking past each other.</p>
<p>It started — well, no, it&#8217;s barely even meaningful to talk about where it &#8220;started&#8221;: the roots of the issue stretch back well before the founding of the United States, and threads are woven throughout our culture and history. But the current blagowebby eruption of this normally-subterranean-from-the-white-liberal-point-of-view conflict was kicked off by Melissa Harris-Perry&#8217;s column at <em>The Nation</em>, <a title="&quot;Black President, Double Standard&quot; at The Nation" href="http://www.thenation.com/article/163544/black-president-double-standard-why-white-liberals-are-abandoning-obama">&#8220;Black President, Double Standard: Why White Liberals Are Abandoning Obama.&#8221;</a> First Joan Walsh <a title="&quot;Are white liberals abandoning the president?&quot; at Salon" href="http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joan_walsh/politics/2011/09/25/white_liberals_obama/index.html">responded at <em>Salon</em></a>; then Harris-Perry wrote <a title="&quot;The Epistemology of Race Talk&quot; at The Nation" href="http://www.thenation.com/blog/163629/epistemology-race-talk">a followup blog post</a>; then David Sirota <a title="&quot;Racism Isn't Responsible for the President's Drop in Popularity -- His Right-Wing Policies Are&quot; at Common Dreams" href="http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/09/26-11">mixed</a> reasonable points about historical comparisons with nasty, condescending personal swipes and counterclaims as overreaching as he insisted Harris-Perry&#8217;s claims were.</p>
<p>There were and have continued to be, of course, many parallel and concurrent discussions, debates, and arguments over these posts on Twitter, where in particular Sirota has been prone to undermine what good points he made by adopting a taunting, sneering tone.</p>
<p>But even Sirota&#8217;s nastiest jabs seem to have faded to the level of background noise at this point, thanks to Gene Lyons, who penned (and, inexplicably, got <em>Salon</em> to publish — leading me to wonder on <a title="My tweet from earlier today" href="https://twitter.com/#!/ScottMadin/status/119411031410884609">Twitter</a>, &#8220;maybe Sirota slipped some web intern at <em>Salon</em> an unmarked envelope: &#8216;hey…make me look reasonable by comparison, eh?'&#8221;) <a title="&quot;Obama's bridge too far&quot; at Salon" href="http://www.salon.com/news/politics/barack_obama/index.html?story=/politics/feature/2011/09/28/obama_fights_republicans">&#8220;Obama&#8217;s bridge too far: When the president gets tough, the tough start whining.&#8221;</a> In this gem of a column, Lyons dismisses the entire notion of applying the lenses of race and gender analysis to our history and politics with a &#8220;[y]ada, yada, yada&#8221;; characterizes Harris-Perry as &#8220;a left-wing Michele Bachmann&#8221;; and describes her worldview as &#8220;a photo negative of KKK racial thought.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep.</p>
<p>He wrote that.</p>
<p>So, you know, maybe Mr. Lyons just doesn&#8217;t quite realize the import of what he wrote; maybe he just figured, well, the KKK think about race a lot, and Harris-Perry thinks about race a lot, so&#8230;sure, why not compare them?</p>
<p>As a public service to Mr. Lyons and anyone else who might be thinking about employing a Ku Klux Klan comparison — and as a humble, clumsy homage to <a title="&quot;should I use blackface on my blog?&quot; at ebogjonson.com" href="http://www.ebogjonson.com/archives/2006/09/should_i_use_bl.php">ebogjonson&#8217;s classic post</a>, with my apologies — allow me to offer this handy spreadsheet: &#8220;Should I Compare Someone I Disagree With to the KKK?&#8221;</p>
<div data-shortcode="caption" id="attachment_800" style="width: 610px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="https://finenessandaccuracy.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/kkk-flowchart.png"><img loading="lazy" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-800" data-attachment-id="800" data-permalink="https://finenessandaccuracy.wordpress.com/2011/09/29/should-i-compare-someone-i-disagree-with-to-the-kkk/kkk-flowchart/" data-orig-file="https://finenessandaccuracy.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/kkk-flowchart.png" data-orig-size="868,1127" data-comments-opened="1" data-image-meta="{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}" data-image-title="Should I Compare Someone I Disagree With to the KKK?" data-image-description="&lt;p&gt;A flowchart titled &#8220;Should I Compare Someone I Disagree With to the KKK?&#8221;&lt;br /&gt;
If the person is actually in the KKK, or is a white American or enjoys a similar position of privilege in a different society AND advocates fascist ethnic cleansing and mob violence, such a comparison is apt; otherwise the answer is always no.&lt;/p&gt;
" data-image-caption="&lt;p&gt;Please refer to this as often as needed.&lt;/p&gt;
" data-medium-file="https://finenessandaccuracy.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/kkk-flowchart.png?w=231" data-large-file="https://finenessandaccuracy.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/kkk-flowchart.png?w=789" class="size-full wp-image-800" title="Should I Compare Someone I Disagree With to the KKK?" src="https://finenessandaccuracy.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/kkk-flowchart.png?w=600&#038;h=779" alt="A flowchart to determine whether comparisons to the KKK are appropriate. Spoiler alert: probably not." width="600" height="779" srcset="https://finenessandaccuracy.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/kkk-flowchart.png?w=600&amp;h=779 600w, https://finenessandaccuracy.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/kkk-flowchart.png?w=116&amp;h=150 116w, https://finenessandaccuracy.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/kkk-flowchart.png?w=231&amp;h=300 231w, https://finenessandaccuracy.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/kkk-flowchart.png?w=768&amp;h=997 768w, https://finenessandaccuracy.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/kkk-flowchart.png 868w" sizes="(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px" /></a><p id="caption-attachment-800" class="wp-caption-text">Please refer to this as often as needed. Click through for full size.</p></div>
<p>(Flowchart built with <a title="Creately.com, an &quot;Online Diagramming and Collaboration&quot; platform." href="http://creately.com/">Creately</a>. <strong>Edit</strong>: forgot to say in the initial post, the flowchart graphic is under a <a title="The CC-BY-SA 3.0 license at CreativeCommons" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/">CC-BY-SA license</a>. Feel free to share and adapt it under those terms; a link to this post is sufficient for attribution.)</p>
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