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<h1 class="post-headline">Ocado has &#8216;need to know&#8217; projects that even some staff don&#8217;t know about</h1>
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<li><strong>Ocado is working on multiple top secret projects based on robotics, according to its CTO.</strong></li>
<li><strong>Some projects are kept secret even internally to &#8220;protect our future,&#8221; CTO said.</strong></li>
<li><strong>The company has publically talked about working on a humanoid robot called SecondHands.</strong></li>
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<p>LONDON — Online grocery business Ocado has super-secret internal projects that even many staff don&#8217;t know about, according to its chief technology officer.</p>
<p>Paul Clarke told Business Insider at Retail Week Live this week in London: &#8220;We&#8217;re reasonably secretive about things internally too. We have projects that are on a &#8216;need to know&#8217; basis. It&#8217;s done on a project by project basis. It&#8217;s an important part of protecting our future.&#8221;</p>
<p>Asked what Ocado needs to protect itself from, Clarke said: &#8220;The way that we look at it, rather than obsess about looking out at who&#8217;s trying to do what we&#8217;re doing, I think what we obsess about it constantly trying to move the puck to somewhere better and different.</p>
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<p>Ocado is an online-only grocery business in the UK but has been trying to position itself as a technology business that can help other businesses get into online delivery. In recent months it has signed deals to <a href="http://uk.businessinsider.com/ocado-shares-jump-international-deal-france-groupo-casino-monoprix-2017-11">provide its technology to France&#8217;s Groupe Casino</a> and <a href="https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/01/22/ocado-bags-second-big-international-deal-canadas-sobeys/">Canada&#8217;s Sobeys.</a></p>
<p>&#8220;We expect to sign multiple deals in the medium term,&#8221; Clarke told BI. &#8220;We&#8217;re talking to people on literally every continent around the world apart from Antarctica and a couple of warzones.&#8221;</p>
<p>Clarke said that &#8220;not very much is public&#8221; of what Ocado does, adding: &#8220;We own all of the intellectual property for all of the technology we use, particularly now that we&#8217;ve got our own robots, and we need to look after that, especially as we&#8217;re going to make it available to other people. We just have to be sensible about what we can talk about and what&#8217;s appropriate to talk about.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ocado has publically disclosed that it is working on a human-like robot called Second Hands that is intended to help humans with tasks around warehouses.</p>
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<p>Clarke said: &#8220;We took delivery of the first robot a few months ago. We&#8217;re putting it through its paces. It&#8217;s doing very well.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re subjecting it to DARPA type challenges. What can it do, what happens when it fails, if it falls over can it pick itself up? We&#8217;re putting it through its paces like that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ocado has also been working on a new generation of grocery picking robots, called SoMa, and<a href="http://uk.businessinsider.com/ocado-trials-oxbotica-self-driving-delivery-van-greenwich-london-2017-6">experimenting with driverless cars.</a></p>
<p>Clarke said: &#8220;We have multiple robotics streams underway, not just the swarm Robotics but picking and packing, and other parts of the business that I can&#8217;t talk about but that&#8217;s the direction of travel as part of our relentless drive to automate more and more.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve been there 12 years and quite frankly there really is never a dull moment. You don&#8217;t join Ocado for a quiet life. That&#8217;s what keeps it exciting. We would not keep the quality of talent we have if there were not big challenges to move on to.&#8221;</p>
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