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<p><a href="http://climateprogress.org/2010/09/08/arctic-sea-ice-history-paleoclimate-polar-amplification/#more-26759">Joe reports breathlessly</a> :</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#ff0000;"><em><span style="color:#000000;">Major analysis finds “less ice covers the Arctic today than at any time in recent geologic history.”</span><br />
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<p style="padding-left:30px;"><span style="color:#000000;"><em>&#8220;This ice loss appears to be unmatched over at least the last few thousand years and <strong>unexplainable by any of the known natural variabilities</strong>.&#8221;<br />
September 8, 2010</em></span></p>
<p>In other words, they don&#8217;t really know is causing what they think they are seeing.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;"><em><strong>The current reduction in Arctic ice cover started in the late 19th century</strong>, consistent with the rapidly warming climate, and became very pronounced over the last three decades.</em></p>
<p>In other words, warming started before the invention of the automobile.</p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;"><em><strong>The paleo data we have so far is very scant</strong>, so we can’t know for sure when the Arctic was ice free in the summer last time. </em></p>
<p>In other words, they don&#8217;t have enough data to back up Joe&#8217;s claims. The also have no idea when the Arctic will be ice free next time.</p>
<p>If I point any of this out on his site, my posts will of course be censored.</p>
<p>I looked through the NSIDC archive, and couldn&#8217;t find any satellite data from several thousand years ago. What was Arctic ice extent on August 8, 2431 B.C.?</p>
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