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<p style="padding-left:30px;">Sorry about that.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Against Dr, Mark Mercer&#8217;s assertion that liking religion is <a href="https://steynian.wordpress.com/more-mark-mercer/" target="_blank">comparable to being a Celine Dion fan</a>:</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">(1) God does not think he is Celine Dion; though Celine has sometimes acted like  she thinks she&#8217;s divine.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">(2) Celine&#8217;s mother didn&#8217;t want to have her; Mary the Mother of God did want to bear the Messiah, God&#8217;s Son. Celine picked her baby from an embryo-farm selection: Mary said &#8220;Be it unto me, according to Thy word.&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">(3) God is said to be impassible; Celine is insufferable.</p>
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<p style="padding-left:30px;">(4) To the best of our knowledge, God has never made protracted public appearances in Las Vegas.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">(5) Taste in Celine Dion&#8217;s music is highly questionable; belief in God is not a matter of taste, but truth.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">(6) Celine exists; therefore God does not.. we&#8217;re still working on this serious challenge to the existence of the almighty. However, he has in the past allowed Judy Garland, <em>A Very Brady Christmas</em>, Phyllis Diller, the Smurfs, Shemp &amp; Zeppo, and last and very much least, <em>Stephane Dion</em>.. so go figure.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">(7) Unpleasant diva-nity does not rule out possible divinity.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">(8) Since only a tiny and tragic minority of people have ever briefly &#8216;enjoyed&#8217; Celine&#8217;s squeakings, and the music of the Gospel has gone out into all nations and been recieved by a wide swath of  billions of peoples around the globe for almost 19 hundred and eightyish years, there&#8217;s really no comparison.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">(9) God is The Ancient Of Days. Celine&#8217;s cradle-robbing hubby is just ancient.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">(10) Therefore, we must conclude that Mercer, Mark, Dr.&#8217;s comparision between Celinism and theism is comparing apples to.. well, fingernails on a black-board.The point the good Doctor must prove is not whether religion is to his taste&#8211; as Celine or clog-dancing or pizza-toppings may legitimately be, but (a) whether the claims of religion are true, and if so, (b) why he might happen to be tone-deaf,or choosing to mishear the Glad Sound, as opposed to the other&#8217;s bad sounds.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">The kindly spanking of Dr. Mercer will continue on this blog from time to time. However, we do his Celine Argument seriously: not least, his claim to trust him (as an authority) that we shouldn&#8217;t trust authorities. Whoa, there. That&#8217;s just freshman Philosophy 101: &#8216;It is universally true that there is no truth (except that one)&#8217; is a self-contradictory bit of illogic. It&#8217;s like saying &#8216;Trust me when say that nobody is trustworthy&#8217;; or &#8216;I say (authoritatively) that you shouldn&#8217;t trust authorities&#8217;; or &#8216;Only my logic/ evidence is logical and evidentiary.&#8217;  Sorry, Dr. Mark: that ice is thinner than water. You can&#8217;t jump off your own shadow, or lift yourself into midair, logically. The fraud Freud tried that for years&#8211; all beliefs are wish-fulfilments!. oh: including that one, cuz you wished it? It&#8217;s all about sex! oh, because you liked to sleep with some of your more gullible female patients?</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">Any agnostic may say &#8216;I mistrust all authority&#8217;, but presumably they say so on some authority or evidence or reasons. Otherwise, it&#8217;s precisely like arbitrarily claiming that&#8211; say &#8212; religion is like like bad taste for Celine Dion, and cool atheism is like the Velvet Underground. Because he says so, and Dr. Mark&#8217;s taste runs to Velvet not Celine, and because all religion is a matter of taste. That last assertion [all religion is only or maily a matter of taste] is precisely the point which must be proven, not assumed by using big oogedy-boogedy words like  authority, mythology, evidence, and suchlike.</p>
<p style="padding-left:30px;">What constitutes the evidence for or against religious belief, and the existence of God? That&#8217;s the essential question as far as I can figure it out (feel free to write and correct me), on which all hangs: eternity (or not); meaning (or not), truth &amp; goodness (or not), salvation or not (or not).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">That&#8217;s the goodness of a relatively tolerant athiest like Mark&#8211; willing to discuss, debate, and kindly disagree&#8211; versus an athiest like Stalin, or the practial atheists of human-rights utopian progressivism, or German socialist Fascism, or trans-human genetic eugenics. Mark does not exactly stand in human-friendly company.. but that&#8217;s an argument for another time.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;">Your turn, Mark: maybe it&#8217;s time for a &#8220;Dr. Mark, Infidel&#8221; blog? 😉</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;padding-left:30px;"><em>Binks</em></p>
<p style="text-align:center;padding-left:30px;"><strong><em>On The Third Day Of Christmas&#8230;</em></strong></p>
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<p style="text-align:center;padding-left:30px;"><em>&#8230;Three French Hens</em>.</p>
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