<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?><oembed><version><![CDATA[1.0]]></version><provider_name><![CDATA[the commune]]></provider_name><provider_url><![CDATA[https://thecommune.wordpress.com]]></provider_url><author_name><![CDATA[ilyajurenkov]]></author_name><author_url><![CDATA[https://thecommune.wordpress.com/author/ilyajurenkov/]]></author_url><title><![CDATA[hal draper, the state and socialism from&nbsp;below]]></title><type><![CDATA[link]]></type><html><![CDATA[<p><strong>by David Broder</strong></p>
<p>Recently this site has <a href="https://thecommune.wordpress.com/2008/11/16/report-on-lrc-conference/">seen a debate</a> over the question of the state in bourgeois society and after working-class revolution, with comrades from the Trotskyist group &#8216;Permanent Revolution&#8217; arguing that such a revolution would necessarily have to create a new state which would centrally plan the economy. They call this &#8220;socialism&#8221;, to be followed by a later classless, stateless era of &#8220;communism&#8221;. They furthermore argue that state-planned economies such as Cuba&#8217;s, despite the lack of working-class power in decision-making, nonetheless represent, in some dilute form, &#8220;workers&#8217; states&#8221;.</p>
<p>This has little in common with our conception of how working-class power comes about and should be exercised: by the working class itself, democratically, from below and creating its own structures organically. There are no saviours from on high: we do not want a benign régime or enlightened despot to dish out equality of poverty.</p>
<p>With this in mind, we have added three texts to the &#8216;ideas&#8217; section of our website by the American communist Hal Draper. These argue against state socialist models and for &#8216;socalism from below&#8217;, and see this sentiment as a thread running through the works of Karl Marx.</p>
<p><a href="https://thecommune.wordpress.com/ideas">Click here</a> to read The Death of the State in Marx and Engels; the Two Souls of Socialism; and The Dictatorship of the Proletariat in Marx and Engels.</p>
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