<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?><oembed><version><![CDATA[1.0]]></version><provider_name><![CDATA[the feminist librarian]]></provider_name><provider_url><![CDATA[http://thefeministlibrarian.com]]></provider_url><author_name><![CDATA[Anna Clutterbuck-Cook]]></author_name><author_url><![CDATA[https://thefeministlibrarian.com/author/feministlib/]]></author_url><title><![CDATA[four years ago today: &quot;I&#8217;ll have to re-think this being-your-friend thing&quot;]]></title><type><![CDATA[link]]></type><html><![CDATA[<p><em>Hanna&#8217;s comment, when I asked her to look this conversation over and approve it for posting, was: &#8220;good god, you are a clunky flirt &#8230; just&#8230;wow &#8230; it&#8217;s amazing.&#8221; The only thing I can offer by way of defending myself is to point out that at that point I hadn&#8217;t yet consciously realized I was interested in flirting, or even at all capable of it!</em> <em>As before, third party names have been omitted and clarifying editions are in brackets. All other text is original to the conversation.</em><br />﻿ </p>
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<td class="tr-caption" style="text-align:center;">dorm room beds aren&#8217;t the best for cuddling<br />(September 2007)</td>
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<p>﻿<strong>Online Chat with Hanna</strong> <strong>Date:</strong> 2007/9/12<br /><span style="font-size:x-small;"><em>1:13 PM </em></span><br /><strong>me:</strong> the internship site [for choosing archives internships] is up and running!<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> oh, thank goodness! <br />anything you can&#8217;t live without? 😉<br /><span style="font-size:x-small;"><em>1:14 PM</em></span><br /><strong>me:</strong> um . . . nothing quite THAT inticing<br />My top three choices so far are:<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> drumroll<br /><span style="font-size:x-small;"><em>1:15 PM </em></span><br /><strong>me:</strong> 1) BPL [Boston Public Library], a photo project with the Leslie Jones collection, &#8220;part of a pre-digitization phase.&#8221;<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> awww&#8230;the bpl&#8230;.<br /><strong>me:</strong> 2) Mass. Dept of Conservation and Recreation, organizing and indexing plans and maps, including some Olmstead stuff [this was the one I was eventually offered, and accepted]<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> nice,nice.<br /><span style="font-size:x-small;"><em>1:16 PM </em></span><br /><strong>me:</strong> and 3) the New England Conservatory of Music, a personal collection of one Victoria Glaser, now 94, whose collection they would like to make accessible for research<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> oooh, nice. all good choices!<br /><strong>me:</strong> I also looked at the Boston Athenaeum, just because the space is so worthy of drooling over<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:17 PM </span></em><br /><strong>[me:] </strong>but the whole concept of a subscription library . . .<br />so hoity-toity<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> yeah, S (who used to work here) went on and on and on about how much she loved the athenaeum and her internship there. she said they had the best pencils ever.<br /><span style="font-size:x-small;"><em>1:18 PM </em></span><br /><strong>me:</strong> haha<br />well, that $220/year membership fee has to pay for something!<br />the thing I wasn&#8217;t so sure about with their internship (aside from the elitism)<br />was that they weren&#8217;t so specific about what projects were available<br /><span style="font-size:x-small;"><em>1:19 PM </em></span><br /><strong>[me:] </strong>so you&#8217;re just picking the site, not the project<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> right, right &#8212; warning there, though. when i signed up for my 438 internship the project i got at the site was totally different from the one they advertised.<br />i don&#8217;t know what would have happened if i&#8217;d raised a stink about it.<br /><strong>me:</strong> ah<br />good heads up<br /><span style="font-size:x-small;"><em>1:20 PM </em></span><br /><strong>[me:] </strong>so S liked the athenaeum?<br />(aside from the pencils?)<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> oh, yeah, she loved it.<br />apparently it&#8217;s a gorgeous space and i guess some of their collections are to die for.<br /><strong>me:</strong> have you ever talked to anyone who&#8217;s worked at the BPL?<br /><span style="font-size:x-small;"><em>1:21 PM </em></span><br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> thinking<br />no, i don&#8217;t think so.<br /><span style="font-size:x-small;"><em>1:22 PM </em></span><br /><strong>[Hanna:] </strong>i know one of the girls in my management class this summer was just going to start working there when the class ended, but we didn&#8217;t stay in touch after the semester was over.<br /><strong>me:</strong> oh well<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:23 PM </span></em><br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> 😦 sorry.<br /><strong>me:</strong> 🙂<br />don&#8217;t worry about it<br />just thought, you know, if you had any insider info . . .<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> 😉 only that they can&#8217;t hire anyone who doesn&#8217;t live in bosto.<br />n<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:24 PM </span></em><br /><strong>me:</strong> ah . . . well, that&#8217;s good to know for future reference!<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> yup, pretty much!<br />did you see the collection at harvard that&#8217;s olmstead&#8217;s stuff?<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:25 PM </span></em><br /><strong>me:</strong> no . . . hmm<br />I kinda skipped over the Harvard entries, since V made it sound like those were really popular<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> mmm, true. but if you don&#8217;t ask, you don&#8217;t get! 😉<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:26 PM </span></em><br /><strong>me:</strong> yeah, but I have this pathological aversion to taking choices away from other people 🙂<br />I always want to take the choice that no one else is interested in, so I don&#8217;t spoil anyone&#8217;s plans<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:27 PM </span></em><br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> well&#8230;yes, so, okay philosophically i have to say that is highly altruistic of you.<br />and therefore i cannot disapprove.<br /><strong>me:</strong> 😛<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> or even argue really.<br /><strong>me:</strong> I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s a GOOD thing<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> 🙂<br /><strong>me:</strong> I mean, for me personally<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:28 PM </span></em><br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> no, i know. and in this case it might be a bit of overkill, really. it is just an internship after all. it isn&#8217;t like you&#8217;re doing something really serious like taking the last m&amp;m or something.<br /><strong>me:</strong> haha<br />(looking at the Harvard internships)<br />﻿ </p>
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<td class="tr-caption" style="text-align:center;">the Plans Library at the Dept. of Conservation and Recreation<br />(October 2007)</td>
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<p>﻿ <em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:29 PM </span></em><br /><strong>[me:] </strong>they have a lot of cool ones related to horticulture this semester, don&#8217;t they?<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> yeah &#8212; the glass flowers collection one might be cool. have you seen that museum yet?<br /><strong>me:</strong> noooo . . .<br />must plan to go someday [I still haven&#8217;t been!]<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:30 PM </span></em><br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> on a sunday &#8212; if i remember right, mass residents get in free before noon &#8212; or after noon &#8212; or something like that. it&#8217;s on their website.<br /><strong>me:</strong> again, good to know!<br />now you have confused my choices 😉<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:31 PM </span></em><br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> whoops!<br />but i added something to your field trip list so that&#8217;s got to be a good thing.<br /><strong>me:</strong> yeah, I&#8217;ll have to re-think this being -your-friend thing<br />🙂<br />(field trip list&#8211;always a plus!)<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:32 PM</span></em><br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> see? there you go. the one balances out the other. 😉<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:33 PM</span></em><br />i&#8217;d also like to know how this internship out in northampton counts as being on mass transit.<br />are they confusing the t with greyhound?<br /><strong>me:</strong> good question<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:34 PM </span></em><br /><strong>[me:] </strong>some of the ones on the list looked a little sketchy, access-wise to me!<br />I mean, yeah, if you had 3 hours to commute!<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> yeah! my 438 class had internships on offer that were up in southern nh and maine.<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:35 PM</span></em> <br /><strong>me:</strong> okay, those may be great sites, but how many of us have the time and/or resources to go out there?<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> exactly.<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:36 PM </span></em><br /><strong>[Hanna:]</strong> and they were very cool internships, but i don&#8217;t know if anyone took them in the end.<br /><strong>me:</strong> how sad 😦<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:37 PM</span></em> <br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> i know we had a couple of distance commuter students, but i think they wanted to go to repositories in boston because of subject interests.<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:38 PM</span></em><br /><strong>me:</strong> so what are you thinking of?<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:39 PM </span></em><br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> there&#8217;s one at bc that just says &#8216;a chance to do higher level processing and finding aids&#8217; and i just really want to get into the bc repository because they&#8217;re supposed to have a good irish collection&#8230; [she did, and they do]<br />&#8230;and then the one at harvard about making a kind of harvard cliff&#8217;s notes study guide because it might be fun to work at the harvard repository&#8230;<br /><strong>me:</strong> yep, yep<br />cliffs notes?<br />(which one is it?)<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> hang on &#8212;<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:40 PM </span></em><br />&#8220;&#8230;[to] create a guide to biographical and genealogical resources about people associated with Harvard&#8230;&#8221;<br />and then the one at tufts in their digital collection because i nearly applied for a job there.<br /><span style="font-size:x-small;"><em>1:41 PM</em></span> <br /><strong>me:</strong> the H one sounds like it could be rather OED [Oxford English Dictionary] in length!<br />well, all good options, yes?<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:42 PM</span></em> <br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> yeah, i think so. and they&#8217;re all on mass transit in places i know and open m-to-f since i can only work on the fridays.<br /><strong>me:</strong> 🙂<br />yeah, that&#8217;s sort of how I sorted them as well<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:43 PM</span></em> <br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> i hate the time crunch thing. i was working out my scheduling last night and nearly gave myself a panic attack.<br /><strong>me:</strong> yeah<br />if I end up working at NEU, my schedule is going to be pretty colorful this semester!<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> 🙂<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:44 PM</span></em><br /><strong>me:</strong> plus, I&#8217;m still in the mode of catching up from all the transitions<br />so I feel like sleeping about 10hrs/night<br />I know it won&#8217;t last, but it makes me feel very . . . unproductive<br /><span style="font-size:x-small;"><em>1:45 PM</em></span> <br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> i know how you feel.<br />it&#8217;s also because it&#8217;s turning chilly and dark earlier and so on&#8230;<br /><strong>me:</strong> yeah 🙂<br />that was my problem in Aberdeen<br />3pm?<br />getting dark?<br />time for bed!<br />in the summer<br />I never had to go to sleep 🙂<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> 🙂<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:46 PM</span></em> <br /><strong>[Hanna:] </strong>i just have an awful time getting up in the morning. it&#8217;s dark and chilly &#8212; this is what my feather comforter was designed for, people! why am i leaving it?<br /><strong>me:</strong> yeah, while I&#8217;ve never been a sleep-in-until-noon sort of person,<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:47 PM</span></em> <br /><strong>[me:] </strong>I never have been able to happily get up before it&#8217;s light out<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> oh, no.<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:48 PM</span></em> <br /><strong>[Hanna:] </strong>when it&#8217;s light, i can get up &#8212; but getting up before the sun does not work for me.<br /><strong>me:</strong> exactly<br />which presents problems for those of us<br />living so far north of the equator<br />or wherever would mean<br />we wouldn&#8217;t ever have to get up<br />before it was light out 🙂</p>
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<td class="tr-caption" style="text-align:center;">Sunrise across the Fens (September 2007)</td>
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<p><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:49 PM</span></em> <br /><strong>[me:] </strong>well, speaking of productivity . . .<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> oh, overrated.<br /><strong>me: </strong>I think I&#8217;m going to sign off and go out for a walk before I face classes this afternoon<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong>  hehe &#8212; oh, okay, in that case, not overrated. i hear it&#8217;s gorgeous out!<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:50 PM</span></em> <br /><strong>me: </strong>it is!<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> oh, bah. well, go on then &#8212; you enjoy that beautiful weather! 😛<br /><strong>me:</strong> mm<br />I&#8217;ll try to send you some karmic sunshine, or whatever<br /><em><span style="font-size:x-small;">1:51 PM</span></em> <br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> hehe. thanks! and do enjoy the walk &#8212; boston&#8217;s really lovely in the fall.<br /><strong>me:</strong> bye<br /><strong>Hanna:</strong> wave</p>
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