<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?><oembed><version><![CDATA[1.0]]></version><provider_name><![CDATA[the feminist librarian]]></provider_name><provider_url><![CDATA[http://thefeministlibrarian.com]]></provider_url><author_name><![CDATA[Anna Clutterbuck-Cook]]></author_name><author_url><![CDATA[https://thefeministlibrarian.com/author/feministlib/]]></author_url><title><![CDATA[from the archives: historical games of&nbsp;telephone]]></title><type><![CDATA[link]]></type><html><![CDATA[<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;">I don&#8217;t have the mental oomph this week for a <a href="http://annajcook.blogspot.com/p/30-30.html">thirty at thirty</a> post, so I thought instead I&#8217;d offer you a little anecdote from the Reading Room of the Massachusetts Historical Society. It&#8217;s a fascinating example of how historical sources can be unreliable, and knowledge with think we all <i>know</i> turns out to be factually far more complicated than it appeared at first glance.</span></p>
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<p>Yesterday afternoon I took a call from a researcher who was looking to source a quotation about Horace Mann. The researcher gave the quote to me over the telephone as follows</p>
<blockquote class="tr_bq"><p><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;">Education really consists of a student on one end of a log and Horace Mann on the other end of the log.</span></b></p></blockquote>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;">The researcher wanted to find out who had said this. I took their contact information and this morning when I was in the Reading Room I spent some time digging around to see what I could find.</span><br /><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;"><br /></span><br /><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;">My first stop was the <a href="http://bartleby.com/quotations/">online version</a> of Bartlett&#8217;s Quotations, to look up any familiar quotations with &#8220;<b>Horace Mann</b>&#8221; in or associated with them, since this was my one concrete lead. (The MHS does, in fact, hold <a href="http://www.masshist.org/findingaids/doc.cfm?fa=fa0234">a large collection</a> of Horace Mann papers, but since this was a quotation<i> </i>ostensibly <i>about </i>Mann rather than <i>by </i>Mann, I set aside the possibility of wading into those waters until later. Turns out this was a good call!). Bartlett&#8217;s didn&#8217;t yield anything. So I decided to begin by verifying the wording of the quotation via that wonderfully inexact crowd-sourcing tool known as The Internet.</span><br /><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;"><br /></span><br /><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;">I navigated to Google.com and typed in &#8220;<b>education really consists of a student on one end of a log</b>&#8221; and hit search.</span><br /><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;"><br /></span><br /><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;">Yes, Librarians do it too, and yes sometimes it can actually be an incredibly powerful entry-point for research of this kind.</span><br /><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;"><br /></span><br /><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;">What I discovered from scanning the first page of results for this phrase was that it wasn&#8217;t Horace Mann whose name was most frequently associated with phrases along these lines, but a man named <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Hopkins_(educator)">Mark Hopkins</a>, who was the president of Williams College (Williamstown, Mass.) from 1836-1872.</span><br /><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;"><br /></span><br /><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;">Re-running my search with the &#8220;education&#8230;&#8221; phrase and &#8220;Mark Hopkins&#8221; took me to <a href="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Education">a Wikiquotes article on education</a>, where the quotation is given as: &#8220;<b>My definition of a University is Mark Hopkins at one end of a log and a student on the other</b>,&#8221; and the attribution is described thus:</span></p>
<blockquote class="tr_bq"><p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;">Tradition well established that <b>James A. Garfield</b> used the phrase at a New York Alumni Dinner in 1872. No such words are found, however. A letter of his, Jan., 1872, contains the same line of thought.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;">I now had a tentative identification for the individual<i> </i>named <i>in </i>the quotation as well as a possible identification for the individual who had spoken the words.</span><br /><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;"><br /></span></p>
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<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;">A search in <a href="http://books.google.com/">Google Books</a> and the <a href="http://www.archive.org/">Internet Archive</a> for various combinations of keywords from the above yielded some fascinating permutations of the elusive quote on education:</span><br /><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;"><br /></span><br /><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;">The January 1902 issue of the  <i><span style="font-style:italic;">Western Journal of Education</span></i> <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=kowVAAAAIAAJ&amp;dq=education%20consists%20of%20a%20student%20on%20one%20end%20of%20a%20log&amp;pg=PA18#v=onepage&amp;q=horace%20mann&amp;f=false" title="http://books.google.com/books?id=kowVAAAAIAAJ&amp;dq=education%20consists%20of%20a%20student%20on%20one%20end%20of%20a%20log&amp;pg=PA18#v=onepage&amp;q=horace%20mann&amp;f=false">contains  an address</a> by one E.F. Adams in which he claims, “<b>When President Garfield  said that when Horace Mann was on one end of a log and himself on the other  there was a university he expressed the spirit of the old education</b>” (p. 18).</span></p>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:inherit;font-size:small;">In a 1966 issue of the education  magazine <i><span style="font-style:italic;">Phi Delta Kappan</span></i>, Arthur  H. Glogau again attributed the quotation to President Garfield and writes  “<b>Garfield once  said that a rotten log, with Mark Hopkins on one end of it, and himself on the  other, would be a university</b>” (Vol 48, p. 404). The date for the quotation is  given in this instance as 1885. </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:inherit;font-size:small;">Mark Hopkins was one-time  president of Williams College and apparently a former professor of Garfield’s. In a footnote  concerning Hopkins in <i><span style="font-style:italic;">The Collected Prose of Robert Frost</span></i>, <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=y3_GxPnBbI4C&amp;lpg=PA266&amp;dq=%22The%20ideal%20college%20is%20Mark%20Hopkins%20on%20one%20end%20of%20a%20log%20and%20a%20student%20on%20the%20other%2C%22&amp;pg=PA266#v=onepage&amp;q=%22The%20ideal%20college%20is%20Mark%20Hopkins%20on%" title="http://books.google.com/books?id=y3_GxPnBbI4C&amp;lpg=PA266&amp;dq=%22The%20ideal%20college%20is%20Mark%20Hopkins%20on%20one%20end%20of%20a%20log%20and%20a%20student%20on%20the%20other%2C%22&amp;pg=PA266#v=onepage&amp;q=%22The%20ideal%20college%20is%20Mark%20Hopkins%20on%">the  editor formulates the quote as</a>: “<b>The ideal college is Mark Hopkins on one  end of a log and a student at the other</b>” (p. 266). </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">Since none of these sources either quote Garfield directly or provide a citation to his own writing or speeches, I turned to our own catalog, <a href="http://www.masshist.org/library/abigail.cfm">ABIGAIL</a>, and called for a biography of Garfield from our reference collection.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, this didn&#8217;t exactly clear up the mystery.</p>
<p><span style="font-family:inherit;font-size:small;">Robert Granfield Caldwell’s  <i><span style="font-style:italic;">James A Garfield: A Party Chieftain  </span></i>(1931), attributes the quote to another secondary source, B.A.  Hinsdale’s <i><span style="font-style:italic;">President Garfield and  Education</span></i> (1882), and phrases it: “<b>Give me a log hut, with only a  simple bench, Mark Hopkins on one end and I on the other, and you may have all  the buildings, apparatus and libraries without him</b>” (p. 185). </span><br /><span style="font-family:inherit;font-size:small;"><br /></span><br /><span style="font-family:inherit;font-size:small;">This citation  appears to lead us back to a 4 February 1879 speech by Garfield before the National Education Association, the  full text of which is reproduced in the Hinsdale publication. <a href="http://www.archive.org/stream/presidentgarfie00hinsgoog#page/n361/mode/2up" title="http://www.archive.org/stream/presidentgarfie00hinsgoog#page/n361/mode/2up">You  can read it online at the Internet Archive</a>. </span>In his NEA address, Garfield  articulated the idea in this way:</p>
<blockquote><p><b>If I could be taken back into boyhood  to-day, and had all the libraries and apparatus of a university, with ordinary  routine professors, offered me on the one hand, and on the other a great,  luminous, rich-souled man, such as Dr. Hopkins was twenty years ago, in a tent  in the woods alone, I should say, ‘Give me Dr. Hopkins for my college course,  rather than any university with only routine professors’</b> (338).</p></blockquote>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;">So now I have <b>four dates</b> upon which this sentiment was supposedly expressed (1871, 1872, 1879, and 1885) and <b>as many venues</b> (New York Alumni dinner, private correspondence, NEA address, and an unknown context for the 1885 attribution). </span><br /><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family:inherit;"><br /></span><br />What I find fascinating about all of these &#8220;quotations&#8221; is the aspects of the story that remain roughly constant: the presence of Hopkins, the image of one mentor and one student in dialogue, the language of wood: <b>a log, a log bench, a rotten log, a tent in the woods</b>. My speculative guess, based on the information I have in front of me, is that this was a well-worn anecdote that James Garfield told about his former professor in a number of settings, and that the image was such a striking one to his contemporaries that it was picked up and repeated over time with slight variation, like that game of telephone you&#8217;re forced to play as a child at birthday parties where you whisper a message from ear to ear around the circle and see whether the end result bears any resemblance to the original phrase.</p>
<p>So there you have it: an hour or two in the life of a reference librarian. </p></div>
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