<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?><oembed><version><![CDATA[1.0]]></version><provider_name><![CDATA[the feminist librarian]]></provider_name><provider_url><![CDATA[http://thefeministlibrarian.com]]></provider_url><author_name><![CDATA[Anna Clutterbuck-Cook]]></author_name><author_url><![CDATA[https://thefeministlibrarian.com/author/feministlib/]]></author_url><title><![CDATA[thought for the day: why are we still framing the conversation this&nbsp;way?]]></title><type><![CDATA[link]]></type><html><![CDATA[<p>So I was going through my Google Reader feeds just now, from the last couple of days, and a <i>lot </i>of people seem to be talking about the possibility of male-female friendship like it&#8217;s suddenly 1989 again and we&#8217;ve decided that <i>When Harry Met Sally</i> is once more culturally relevant.</p>
<p>The question being, as always, &#8220;Can men and women be friends or does sex/sexuality inevitably get in the way?&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my thing about that question. Two things, actually. The question &#8220;Can men and women be friends?&#8221; assumes a) hetero-universality and b) that the <i>possibility</i> of sexual desire precludes a relationship that doesn&#8217;t involve sexual activity.</p>
<p>Speaking as someone who experiences the <i>possibility</i> of sexual attraction across genders, if I ruled out friendship <i>sans</i> sex with anyone who I could envision sexual intimacy with, then wow I&#8217;d be shit out of luck when it came to friendship. Because, surprise! The type of people I tend to get along with <i>as friends</i> are also the type of people I&#8217;d be most likely to be open to sexual intimacy with.</p>
<p>Obviously, it&#8217;s a moot point since I&#8217;m in a committed, monogamous relationship with Hanna. So sex with anyone else simply isn&#8217;t on the table any longer. But the same could be said of any person in a committed relationship &#8212; are you supposed to cut yourself off from friendship with any person you&#8217;d theoretically be willing to have sex with, simply because the possibility of sex and friendship don&#8217;t mix? That isn&#8217;t practical and doesn&#8217;t even make <i>sense</i>?</p>
<p>And think about what it&#8217;s saying about peoples&#8217; ability to keep it in their pants and, you know, practice fidelity to the ground-rules of their primary relationships! That somehow the very presence of sexual attraction makes rational thought and decision-making evaporate? That you experience the possibility of sexual attraction and <i>whist!</i> &#8212; all prior commitments and promises out the window! Erm &#8230; really?</p>
<p>I get why, in our aggressively gendered, heteronormative culture it feels like &#8220;common sense&#8221; to assume homosociality and heterosexuality <i>naturally</i> go hand in hand. That your <i>friendships</i> will be primarily with people of your own gender (to whom you&#8217;re not sexually attracted in any way) and that your <i>sexual </i>intimacy will happen with a person or persons of another gender (the gender toward which you experience sexual attraction). But that formulae simply doesn&#8217;t work for people who are gay or swing both ways. As someone who experiences desire toward people with female bodies, I nevertheless have friends with female bodies with whom I manage <i>not </i>to have sex.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also managed to be naked in a locker room, in communal showers, skinny dipping, and co-sleeping with female-bodied people <i>without</i> engaging in sexual intimacy. Given cultural taboos, I haven&#8217;t done the same with male-bodied persons, but I&#8217;d wager the experience would be similar. That is, it&#8217;s not about the shape of the body in question or the gender identity of the person embodied, but about the context of our relationship and what we&#8217;ve mutually decided it contains. If sex isn&#8217;t part of our intimacy, we somehow (!) manage to <i>not go there</i>.</p>
<p>Granted, I&#8217;m not one of those people who experiences sex-exclusive attractions. Maybe if I only found women or men attractive, it would be easier for me to form platonic friendships with people of the gender which I wasn&#8217;t sexually interested in, and save the gender I was for flirting and sexytimes? But I can&#8217;t help feeling like the assumption that it&#8217;s an either/or (friendship OR sex) proposition hurts even the people who experience those more exclusive desires.</p>
<p>Thus ends my thought for the day.</p>
]]></html></oembed>